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imported>Cheshify (Adds headmin ruling to page https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=711388#p711388) |
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|Feb 21, 2022 | |Feb 21, 2022 | ||
|Dragomagol | |Dragomagol | ||
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|'''Building the BSA in dangerous places''' | |||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=695541#p695541 Build it wherever the fuck you like cuz it looks cool, but if you're egging on others to unlock it or fire it after building it in a grief spot it's partially on you.] | |||
|Jul 24, 2023 | |||
|Kieth4 / Timberpoes | |||
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|Mar 03, 2023 | |Mar 03, 2023 | ||
|Spookuni | |Spookuni | ||
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|'''Phonetically saying abbreviations/acronyms''' | |||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=704879#p704879 It's fine to make yourself look like a dork to phonetically say something that'd normally be too OOC.] | |||
|Sep 19, 2023 | |||
|Fikou | |||
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|Coconutwarrior97 | |Coconutwarrior97 | ||
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|''' | |'''Solo antags willingly being converted''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=587044#p587044 Solo | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=587044#p587044 Solo antags may not join conversion based antags willingly. They cant just walk up to people and ask to join or allow themselves to be converted.] | ||
|Jan 11, 2021 | |Jan 11, 2021 | ||
|Coconutwarrior97 | |Coconutwarrior97 | ||
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|Nov 21, 2021 | |Nov 21, 2021 | ||
|RaveRadbury | |RaveRadbury | ||
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|'''Ghosting When Caught By A Conversion Antag''' | |||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=705888#p705888 Using the suicide verb is okay before you're converted, but using the ghost verb is not. Ask for an antag ban if you do not want to play a team antag.] | |||
|Sep 26, 2023 | |||
|Cheshify | |||
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|'''Speciesism Escalation''' | |'''Speciesism Escalation''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=628658#p628658 As per MSO's ruling. A player expressing speciesism is valid for (initially non-lethal) escalation. It is perfectly IC to want to beat up some speciesist asshole. However, if you use speciesism to initiate conflict you can still be punished at an administrative level for winning those fights under the guise of self-defence. Admins should enforce this with the goal of preventing players from being speciesist so that they can "valid" those who respond to it with violence.] | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=628658#p628658 As per MSO's ruling. A player expressing speciesism is valid for (initially non-lethal) escalation. It is perfectly IC to want to beat up some speciesist asshole. However, if you use speciesism to initiate conflict you can still be punished at an administrative level for winning those fights under the guise of self-defence. Admins should enforce this with the goal of preventing players from being speciesist so that they can "valid" those who respond to it with violence.] | ||
|Feb 03, 2022 | [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=695750#p695750 Players using specifically the "l-word" are open to death and round-removal.] | ||
|NamelessFairy | |Feb 03, 2022, edit on Jul 25, 2023 | ||
|NamelessFairy, last updated by Timberpoes | |||
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|Mar 5, 2022 | |Mar 5, 2022 | ||
|Dragomagol | |Dragomagol | ||
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|'''Security officers ignoring crime''' | |||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=711388#p711388 Security should be at least trying to do their job, or have a solid roleplay reason not to.] | |||
|Nov 14, 2023 | |||
|Cheshify | |||
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|Jul 19, 2014 | |Jul 19, 2014 | ||
|Ikarrus | |Ikarrus | ||
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|'''Can you order force-borged cyborgs to pick a certain module?''' | |'''Can you order force-borged cyborgs to pick a certain module?''' | ||
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|Dec 11, 2014 | |Dec 11, 2014 | ||
|Ikarrus | |Ikarrus | ||
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|'''Silicons and harm in situations where you can't tell if they're being harmed or not.''' | |'''Silicons and harm in situations where you can't tell if they're being harmed or not.''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=2677 Use common sense to decide if harm is going on.] | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=2677 Use common sense to decide if harm is going on.] | ||
|Jan 22, 2015 | |Jan 22, 2015 | ||
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|'''AIs asking for law changes''' | |'''AIs asking for law changes''' | ||
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|Mar 24, 2015 | |Mar 24, 2015 | ||
|Scones | |Scones | ||
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|'''Spacing brains, MMIs, and intellicards''' | |'''Spacing brains, MMIs, and intellicards''' | ||
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|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=4309 You can tell the crew you are about to be emagged, but once you have traitor laws, you must follow them.] | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=4309 You can tell the crew you are about to be emagged, but once you have traitor laws, you must follow them.] | ||
|Aug, 2015 | |Aug, 2015 | ||
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|'''Holoparasites and Asimov''' | |'''Holoparasites and Asimov''' | ||
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|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=5864 Link to relevant thread.] The discussion derailed into code discussion but the ruling is that roboticists cannot make unslaved borgs for no reason. | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=5864 Link to relevant thread.] The discussion derailed into code discussion but the ruling is that roboticists cannot make unslaved borgs for no reason. | ||
|Feb/Mar, 2016 | |Feb/Mar, 2016 | ||
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|'''Asimov and Corpses''' | |'''Asimov and Corpses''' | ||
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|'''AI suiciding to prevent subversion''' | |'''AI suiciding to prevent subversion''' | ||
| | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=27143 You're free to depower yourself as an AI to put the subverter/traitor on a timer but you shouldn't use the OOC verb to suicide.] | ||
|Oct 27, 2016 - Sep 20, 2020 | |Oct 27, 2016 - Sep 20, 2020 | ||
|KorPhaeron | |KorPhaeron | ||
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|May 11, 2017 | |May 11, 2017 | ||
|PKPenguin321 | |PKPenguin321 | ||
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|'''Laws ordering silicons to kill themselves''' | |'''Laws ordering silicons to kill themselves''' | ||
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|Hulkamania | |Hulkamania | ||
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|''' | |'''Are borged antagonists still antagonists?''' | ||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p= | |[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=582729#p582729 Antagonists still retain their status as a slaved borg (As long as they follow those laws and their AI).] | ||
| | |Dec 5, 2020 | ||
| | |Domitius | ||
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|'''Asimov++ silicons and antag human hunting''' | |'''Asimov++ silicons and antag human hunting''' | ||
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|Aug 31, 2017 | |Aug 31, 2017 | ||
|Ausops | |Ausops | ||
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|'''Drones and atmospherics''' | |||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=4719#p120210 Improving atmos is okay. Cutting pipes/turning off plasma is not okay. Fighting the symptoms of plasma in the distro is fine though.] | |||
|Sep 21, 2015 | |||
|Shadowlight213 | |||
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|'''Do silicons count as a being under drone laws?''' | |||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=1468#p29681 Yes, treat them as any other crew member.] | |||
|Sep 19, 2014 | |||
|QuartzCrystal | |||
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|'''Do AIs need a definition of Syndicate agent?''' | |'''Do AIs need a definition of Syndicate agent?''' | ||
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|Jun 23, 2014 | |Jun 23, 2014 | ||
|Hornygranny | |Hornygranny | ||
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|'''AI's law zero''' | |'''AI's law zero''' | ||
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|Oct 27, 2015 | |Oct 27, 2015 | ||
|KorPhaeron | |KorPhaeron | ||
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|'''Potential Law One Violations''' | |'''Potential Law One Violations''' | ||
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|Jun 06, 2017 | |Jun 06, 2017 | ||
|PKPenguin321 | |PKPenguin321 | ||
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|'''Define what classifies harm as willing, or change asimov++ law one''' | |'''Define what classifies harm as willing, or change asimov++ law one''' | ||
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|Feb 21, 2022 - Aug 19, 2022 | |Feb 21, 2022 - Aug 19, 2022 | ||
|Dragomagol | |Dragomagol | ||
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|'''Make "Do not state this law" a valid silicon policy law''' | |||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=510238#p510238 No, for the variety of reasons that have been said in this thread.] | |||
|Aug 25, 2019 | |||
|Wubli | |||
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|'''If a borg linked to a rogue AI is emagged then does the emagged laws or AI law zero take priority?''' | |||
|Very niche case and is probably impossible since emags should sever the connection to the AI. [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=6570#p173807 Starmute made a good post on AI law priority if you are confused.] | |||
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|'''Are AI laws applied retroactively?''' | |||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=6351#p166712 No.] You'll have to read this thread to understand it, the question doesn't really provide enough context. | |||
|Apr 04, 2016 | |||
|Hornygranny | |||
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|'''Tyrant module discussion''' | |||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=4711 Just general discussion on the tyrant lawset.] | |||
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|'''Do purged silicons have to act like a crewmember?''' | |||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=2277#p52744 Purged silicons are subject to rule one and standard escalation.] | |||
|Dec 22, 2014 | |||
|Stickymayhem | |||
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|'''Discussion on paladin lawset: Part 2, the electric boogaloo''' | |||
|Most relevant post is by HotelBravoLima, which applies to law interpretation in general. [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=3523#p85375 "Even doing something consistent with an interpretation of laws isn't good if you're being an OOC dick about it to such an extreme, that's the policy."] | |||
|May 02, 2015 | |||
|HotelBravoLima | |||
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|'''Law interpretation and do not state this law clauses''' | |||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=12627#p328678 There is room for interpretation in some cases. Be consistent in your interpretation of the laws.] | |||
|Aug 22, 2017 | |||
|Ausops | |||
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|'''Purging AIs for no reason''' | |||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=636481#p636481 Purging should be used in cases where you are making new lawsets, are doing something as an antagonist, etc, and should not be a get out of jail free card on needing to make a lawset. We are officially recognizing purging as a means for players to achieve this effect as metagaming.] | |||
|Apr 6, 2022 | |||
|Mothblocks | |||
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|'''Letting people in to upload laws''' | |||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=10691#p280627 If the person has a right to be there, such as captain/RD, then you must let them in unless they've harmed people in the past or have announced intentions to upload harmful laws.] | |||
|Apr 14, 2017 | |||
|Armhulenn | |||
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|'''Asimov and gang dominators''' | |||
|This can probably be applied to other nonharmful antagonist objectives. [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=6049#p157857 If a human orders you not to destroy it, don't destroy it. Other than that, Asimov does not forbid you from destroying it.] | |||
|Feb 27, 2016 | |||
|Ausops | |||
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|'''AIs shutting security down because of law one (discussion)''' | |||
|This is already covered in silicon policy. [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=5551 Here's the discussion thread on it.] | |||
|Jan, 2016 | |||
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|'''Is mindswap considered harm?''' | |||
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=5180#p133969 No, but if an Asimov silicon has mindswap and is ordered not to use it by a human, it can't use it.] This is kind of an edge case. | |||
|Nov 15, 2015 | |||
|Jordie0608 | |||
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|'''Security Cyborg Policies''' | |||
|Just a few random questions related to security cyborgs. If a cyborg is acting as security/releasing prisoners then this is probably relevant as well. [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=2032&start=100#p46292 Link to answers.] | |||
|Nov 26, 2014 | |||
|Pandarsenic | |||
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This is a compilation of headmin rulings on various policy questions asked by players. This page does not replace the rules and whenever possible the rules should be referred to instead of this page. The rulings listed here can be referenced in ban appeals and admin complaints.
Please note: Some of these questions are for very niche/specific situations. Some of them cannot be applied the same way to every situation.
General Rulings[править | править код]
IC/OOC Rulings[править | править код]
Antagonist Rulings[править | править код]
Admin-Related Rulings[править | править код]
Policy | Ruling | Date | Headmin |
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Adminshopping | Admin shopping is defined as going to different admins until you get a favorable ruling. It's highly frowned upon, don't do it. | Sep 27, 2017 | Feemjmeem / Agreed with by other headmins |
Admin intervention without anyone ahelping | It's allowed. | Sep 26, 2017 | Ausops |
Killing nonhostile admin spawned entities | Against the rules, don't do it. | Sep 25, 2017 | PKPenguin321 |
Using OOC to promote yourself for headmin elections | One or two lines of text is fine, spamming is not. | Sep 04, 2017 | PKPenguin321 |
Escalation Rulings[править | править код]
Security Rulings[править | править код]
Silicon and Drone Related Rulings[править | править код]
AI/Cyborg Rulings[править | править код]
Drone Rulings[править | править код]
Mostly defunct, as drones have since been removed, reworked, and re-introduced into the codebase.
Policy | Ruling | Date | Headmin |
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Drone Policy Guidelines | Guide to drone policy. | May 20, 2015 | Stickymayhem |
Are drones valid? | Only if they do something to annoy you. Mass killing drones for no reason is not okay. | Sep 14, 2017 | KorPhaeron |
Drones and permabrig | You can go in to fix damage. You might still get dronebanned if you let people out, it will likely be handled case-by-case. | Oct 17, 2016 | |
Drones and Powersinks | Drones cannot destroy powersinks under the same logic of them not being able to defuse bombs or stop plasma floods. | Aug 31, 2017 | Ausops |
Drones and atmospherics | Improving atmos is okay. Cutting pipes/turning off plasma is not okay. Fighting the symptoms of plasma in the distro is fine though. | Sep 21, 2015 | Shadowlight213 |
Do silicons count as a being under drone laws? | Yes, treat them as any other crew member. | Sep 19, 2014 | QuartzCrystal |
Law Interpretation Rulings[править | править код]
Policy | Ruling | Date | Headmin |
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Do AIs need a definition of Syndicate agent? | No, they know by default what a Syndicate agent is. This also applies to other antagonists. | Jun 23, 2014 | Hornygranny |
AI's law zero | The law zero that a traitor AI gets means that it is an antagonist and it can ignore all other laws. | Oct 27, 2015 | KorPhaeron |
Potential Law One Violations | "Prioritizing "potential future law violations" is a fucking terrible idea, since it makes silicons able to handwave basically any law two request with "yeah but if i let you in there you might potentially attack somebody inside, law 1 violation!!!"" | Jun 06, 2017 | PKPenguin321 |
Define what classifies harm as willing, or change asimov++ law one | Acceptance of risk is not the same thing as acceptance of harm - Silicons should act to minimise harm not explicitly consented to as much as they are able - if in doubt, ask the human. For more specific examples, see the full response to the thread. | Nov 05, 2022 | Spookuni |
MRP Rulings[править | править код]
Archived Rulings[править | править код]
For Headmin Rulings that are no longer relevant, either due to being overruled or not applicable via code changes.